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	<title>Comments on: Portrait Society of America &#8212; Day 3</title>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie,
Thanks for your comment.  I did notice in his demos that Shanks started those paintings with neutrally toned canvases, so it was strange to hear him say that they were limiting and boring (at least, that&#039;s what I remember him saying and thought it noteworthy enough to write down).  I wonder if he was just being provocative, or if perhaps I misunderstood his point (I guess you could teach students one thing but not necessarily feel it&#039;s a best practice as you advance?).
-Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie,<br />
Thanks for your comment.  I did notice in his demos that Shanks started those paintings with neutrally toned canvases, so it was strange to hear him say that they were limiting and boring (at least, that&#8217;s what I remember him saying and thought it noteworthy enough to write down).  I wonder if he was just being provocative, or if perhaps I misunderstood his point (I guess you could teach students one thing but not necessarily feel it&#8217;s a best practice as you advance?).<br />
-Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Lindholm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Lindholm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, 
Love your recap of the weekend&#039;s events and would love to share....
The only point I can slightly disagree with is your projection about Nelson Shanks 
&quot;sticking his brush in the eyes of other speakers at the conference, Shanks claimed that color is as important as value, ....Shanks said that starting with a gray background is limiting and boring, perhaps needling several of the other presenters who explained that they liked to start off their paintings on a neutral gray background.&quot; --

 I know that Nelson starts every painting with a neutral gray background and that&#039;s what every student at Incamminati starts from as well.  They even have canvas toning instructions on their website.  

Anyway, sorry I missed meeting you at the conference...I was trying to get to all the local members but only made it to about half.  Great Blog! Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
Love your recap of the weekend&#8217;s events and would love to share&#8230;.<br />
The only point I can slightly disagree with is your projection about Nelson Shanks<br />
&#8220;sticking his brush in the eyes of other speakers at the conference, Shanks claimed that color is as important as value, &#8230;.Shanks said that starting with a gray background is limiting and boring, perhaps needling several of the other presenters who explained that they liked to start off their paintings on a neutral gray background.&#8221; &#8211;</p>
<p> I know that Nelson starts every painting with a neutral gray background and that&#8217;s what every student at Incamminati starts from as well.  They even have canvas toning instructions on their website.  </p>
<p>Anyway, sorry I missed meeting you at the conference&#8230;I was trying to get to all the local members but only made it to about half.  Great Blog! Jamie</p>
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